The Apostles
never doubted they were justified by Christ. And 2 Peter 1 says that
believers are those of “equally precious faith” to the Apostles.
Doesn’t that mean that all believers — like Peter, Paul and John –
have full assurance of salvation?
Andrew
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Hey Andrew, I was wondering, how did you find my blog?
With your last post you used James 1:6-8 out of context. It is talking about not doubting in your prayer not “assurance of salvation”. Also When you quoted from 2 Corinthians 13:5 you neglected the beginning. That says “Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith.” So you are to examine whether you are in Christ, and to doubt your salvation to make sure you are saved. Adam’s curse affects us but we do not inherit his
sin. Romans 5:12 “Therefore just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, BECAUSE ALL HAVE SINNED. You also neglected the rest of Ezekiel 18:20 “The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.”
Hey welcome to my site, feel free to comment. also visit my site, http://www.theswampytimes.com Im interested in your opinion on my church article. I loooked over some of yours. and you might be onto something, though ican’t say I entirly agree with the trinity myself, at least not as stated in the Niecean Creed. It is a very Catholic belief and Catholics don’t seem to have the best track record when it comes to doctrinal accuracy. Well I’ll get back to you later, and let me know somethin about your views on evangelism in general, and in the church.
Hey Andrew, I agree with the concept that Arminianism is a false gospel. I’ll have to read you blog a little more to get to full affect of what you are trying to say, but on that concept we are in agreement, including with the implications of such a statement. I do believe all those who do not attribute salvation to God and God alone to be damned. We’ll chat more. [You left a long message on my guestbook, but I didn't see it until just recently.] Thanks, Brian
Hello Andrew.
Your friend Marc Carpenter has borne false witness against me on his web site by claiming that I deny the doctrine of total depravity by saying an unregenerate can believe the gospel. I showed him Luke 8:13 where the Lord Jesus Christ clearly says that an unregenerate person can believe the gospel. When I approached him he refused to acknowledge it and repent. Marc didn’t even make an attempt to address the verse but stood firm in his convictions, thereby accusing the Son of God of denying total depravity. This is sheer blasphemy! What you need to do is bring this to his attention, and call him to either repent or substantiate his claim. If he does neither than you ~must~ cease fellowshipping with him. You ~must~ disassociate yourself from him and withdraw. If you do not then you share in his wickedness.
Regards;
James Kirby
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Prov 25:18 A man that beareth false witness against his neighbor Is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow.
Hi James,
Luke 8:13 does not teach that unbelievers can believe the gospel.
Here it is: “Now those on the rock are those who, whenever they should be hearing, with joy are receiving the word. And these have no root, who are believing for a season and, in a season of trial, are withdrawing.”
And, read also Matthew 13:23: “But that sown on the good ground is this: the one hearing the Word, and understanding it, who indeed bears and yields fruit, one truly a hundredfold, and one sixty, and one thirty.”
Now, both the rocky soil and the good soil outwardly HEAR the Word. However, only the good soil UNDERSTANDS the Word. The rocky soil has no root, i.e. understanding.
The rocky soil does outwardly “with joy” receive the Word, and it seems that they believe for a time. But they really do not understand.
Matthew 13:20-21, “And that sown on the stony places is this: the one hearing the Word, and immediately receiving it with joy, but has no root in himself, but is temporary, and tribulation, or persecution occurring because of the Word, he is at once offended.”
We see a man OUTWARDLY receive the gospel with joy, but “IN HIMSELF” he does not understand. In fact, just a little bit of persecution “offends him”!!! This is not someone who understands the gospel in the least.
Andrew Bain
Hello Andrew;
You can’t read. The Lord Jesus Christ clearly says they on the rock ~believed~. You’re grasping at straws and sharing in Marc’s wickedness. Repent.
http://www.paonline.com/jamesjay/dead.htm
James
Luke 8:13 does not teach that unbelievers can believe the gospel.
Response;
Correct. It teaches that unREGENERATES can believe it! They are ~believers~! Not unbelievers.
Here it is: “Now those on the rock are those who, whenever they should be hearing, with joy are receiving the word. And these have no root, ***who are believing***
for a season and, in a season of trial, are withdrawing.”
And, read also Matthew 13:23: “But that sown on the good ground is this: the one hearing the Word, and understanding it, who indeed bears and yields fruit, one truly a hundredfold, and one sixty, and one thirty.”
Response;
I’m not talking about the good-ground hearer. I’m talking about the Rocky ground hearer
and Messiah testifies that he ~believed~. He was a ~believer~.
Now, both the rocky soil and the good soil outwardly HEAR the Word. However, only the good soil UNDERSTANDS the Word. The rocky soil has no root, i.e. understanding.
Response;
I’m not talking about ‘understanding’ Andrew. I’m talking about ~believing~. Rocky ~believed~.
The rocky soil does outwardly “with joy” receive the Word, and it seems that they believe for a time. But they really do not understand.
Response;
You just added to the word of God Andrew and that’s wicked! Jesus did not say “seems to believe”.
Matthew 13:20-21, “And that sown on the stony places is this: the one hearing the Word, and immediately receiving it with joy, but has no root in himself, but is temporary, and tribulation, or persecution occurring because of the Word, he is at once offended.”
We see a man OUTWARDLY receive the gospel with joy, but “IN HIMSELF” he does not understand. In fact, just a little bit of persecution “offends him”!!! This is not someone who understands the gospel in the least.
Response;
No but it ~is~ someone who ~believes~ Andrew. You grasping straws and calling Jesus Christ a liar! Repent! ~He~ said that the rocky ground hearer ~believed~ and that’s what you need to deal with.
James Kirby
Din wanna hafta do it!
Marc Carpenter bears false witness;
http://www.paonline.com/jamesjay/MC.htm
James
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Bones is totally off. Of course he would have to try to usae a passage of scripture that is using imagery to teach a false doctrine by reading his own ideas into it. If someone TRULY believes the gospel, of course they will never forsake Christ. Bainy speaks IMO of the deepest level of UNDERSTANDING which of course is BELIEVING. And please, it’s lame how you have to resort to attacks accusing people of wickedness because your words have no weight in themselves, as they are in error.
hey maybe you should read my post. you might have a good answer.
Well swampy the Trinity is not the place to look to determine where the Roman Catholics are off… think more along the lines of adding to the Bible and salvation by works.
The unsaved can believe. Even the demons believe — and shudder. Their problem is that their ‘belief is merely a recognition of facts, not the saving faith that we true Christians possess.
Are you a calvinist?
if so, you should read the bible under the holy Ghost
calvinist, armiinans and all that crap fall short!
i know you not a arminan amen to that
but calvinlist believes so crazy stuff as well, babys go to hell, God send people to hell, Jesus didnt die for thr whole world only the elect. this is crazy
im Andy and i am a born again believer seen you in my best friend site Kat, it sounds like you was trying to teach her, so i thats whi im here
God bless Jesus saves
Love Andy
Messenger, it depends on what level of belief you are talking about. The Bible talks of UNBELIEVERS and BELIEVERS… SAVED and UNSAVED. Believing there is a God is not the same as BELIEVING in the GOSPEL, and demons are UNABLE to trust in the Gospel unto salvation. Man is spiritually DEAD, and not spiritually able to believe spiritual truth.
Andy, if there is no hell it makes no sense to be an Arminian OR Calvinist. Also it is amazing that you ask Bain to read the Bible under the Holy Spirit, when you yourself deny the Holy Spirit’s words concerning hell in the Bible. Since there is a hell, we must be saved. Calvin’s theology is the only theology that does not mix salvation with works, like the theology of Arminius did. However, your attempt to solve the problem by trading one heresy for the other falls flat. Just because something is unpleasant does NOT make it untrue, people just don’t WANT to believe it and become heretics in the process.