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I guess the Apostle Paul is guilty of the very same things you’re accusing Piper of:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles. — Romans 1:18-23 (ESV)
You’re just looking to pick a fight. Or you’re ignorant of what the Scriptures teach.
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Thanks for your feedback. You’re right that Romans 1 says everyone knows about God. But the question is HOW do they know about God. Do unbelievers 1) have the knowledge of God deep down in their hearts (as Piper says) or 2) do unbelievers merely HEAR about God. Now, Piper teaches point #1, that is – unbelievers deep down know the True God created the worlds.
But how does Piper deal with Hebrews 11:3? This verse says it is by FAITH we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God. And unbelievers do NOT have faith. Therefore unbelievers do NOT understand the worlds were created by God.
Take for example Arminians who say that a man created the world. Their god is a changeable, weak, helpless being (a man) that cannot do what he wants to do. He wants everyone to be saved but utterly fails to accomplish what he wants. So they believe a pathetic idol/man created the worlds. Deep down they have NO IDEA who the True God is, because he is the opposite to their god – the true God “works all things according to the counsel of his own will” (Eph1:11), “creates evil” (Isa45:7) and who achieves everything he wants.
Clearly most people think a man created the worlds. If they think otherwise, why do they always depict their “god” as a man? Moreover, why does their “god” act just like a man? Their god only saves people who are first “accept him” but rejects those who “reject him”. This is not a divine being but a being that operates just like humans.
The True God is totally different. “The nations which sought after unrighteousness have obtained righteousness” (Rom 9). He is the only being who requires absolutely NOTHING from others. He gives righteousness to the thief on the cross and damns billions of moral, sincere, dedicated people.
Ask most “Christians” if they believe in the God who wants/needs nothing from mankind but gives chosen men a perfect righteousness. Most “Christians” do NOT believe in this God, but they believe in some contradictory being which does not exist (since their being is contradictory – he is not perfect — he cannot God).
Clearly most people believe in a god of their own imagination.
And they will continue to as long as they follow Piper’s advice — “listen to your inner voice”. (That is like saying “follow the god of your own imaginations”).
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No love, no humility. This blog is a cold dark cave of hate.
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Andrew…Andrew…
Get off the internet, go sit under someone with some sound Calvinistic theology and get properly discipled.
Slandering Piper (because anyone who’s read him knows he’s not guilty of the things you’re accusing him of) isn’t going to get you very far.
