ANTI-GOSPEL BLOGGER:
NOEL DANIELS“I don’t have enough belief to trust in God for my justification and continual sanctification…I will never fully believe the gospel.”
Read the entire admission by Noel Daniels
Noel Daniels doubts that God can justify His people based on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ alone.
What does the Bible say about assurance?
Romans 8:15-16
“For you did not receive a spirit of slavery again to fear, but you received a Spirit of adoption by which we cry, Abba! Father!”
“The Spirit Himself witnesses with our spirit that we are children of God.”
More on Romans 8:15-16 here
Comments (14)
good evening sir.
i would like to post a sincere, yet stern comment concerning your xanga. i admire your writing technique and capabilities. your intelligence it noteworthy and you are researched and apparently blessed in what you do and believe. however, i cannot comprehend your ‘fire and brimstone’ approach to christianity–rather preaching to the choir against non-believers. you condemn a brilliant young woman on xanga in this post whom is having her own personal affairs trampled upon by the likes of you and then you have the audacity to condemn your own sister.
this puzzles me because..psychologically speaking..its as if you are a projectionist, or suffer from projection. you condemn others whereas you are condemned.
i do not know this woman, nor do i know your sister, but to say such things…is beyond me. and i am not one who is easily at a loss for words. you have every right and freedom to live as you do and say what you want, but mind you this: judgment will be upon you tenfold. your actions may be admirable and justified in your eyes, but i can guarantee you that they are empty and base.
i suggest you live by the red letters, instead of relying on the words of divine, yet fallen men. jesus was a man of peace. his authoritative nature according to the bible is in reference to a divine judgment.
stop creating wars within people’s minds and hearts and create peace in the community. produce your fruits wisely….
sincerely and best regards,
d.m. clayton (theist)
You have no right to post what you did about Noel. I am now convinced that you are not about the work of the edification of the body of Christ, but only to tar it down, you are a wolf in sheeps clothing.
If you are going to comment on my site, please make it relevent to the post, i do not like shameless plugs put on my site. If this means that you will not post on my site anymore, then so be it. But i prefere to have a post that relates to my post, or a comment as a response to something i said on a persons site. thank you
SS
Andrew,
You don’t need an excuse to post your OTC articles on your own site (actually I wish you would and stop posting them on mine…). And you especially don’t need need to make false statements about others to justify your posting.
Noel Daniels doubts that God can justify His people based on the atoning blood and imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ alone.
This is a non sequitur. Noel said he sometimes has doubts and doesn’t always fully believe the gospel (which is not abnormal in the Christian life). And you move from this personal statement of his about his faith to claiming he is saying Christ sacrifice can’t justify the elect. ???
It is before his own master that Noel stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
I will not even respond. If anyone else wants to read all of what I said, or wants any clarification regarding what I said, rather than a sentance taken out of context and then condemned, you can check out my xanga.
Soli Deo Gloria!
“I often feel like I have enough belief to realize that I am a mess of a sinner, but I don’t have enough belief to trust in God for my justification and continual sanctification. I have to realize that while this may not be a comfortable place for me to be in, it’s not a bad place to be. I will never fully believe the gospel, that would be perfection. Rather than feeling like I’m not saved because I don’t consistently believe the gospel 100%, I need to realize that there is some belief there (solely from God) and that belief is a saving faith thanks to the grace of the Lord.”
First of all i wanted to get this out there because this is what Noel ACTUALLY said (in most of its context aside from putting the entire comment on here. Why is it that you feel you need to cut and paste from his statement – made in sincerity to another – for your own site? I believe you seriously need to asses your motives for this because, in no way was Noel saying that he could ‘never fully believe the gospel’, the crucial part here (which was left out) was that he admits to not being perfect (who is aside from Christ?), and that this was his personal feeling.
I was concidering not saying anything because i know Noel, and his heart for the Lord needs no defence in that God is his defence, but i cannot let such a gross, mis-quote go unaccounted for. Please, if you must quote from other sites, at least use the full quote and dont cut and paste for your own good. If at all possible though, concider curbing slander on your site.
Andrew, if you are trying to win people over to your mode of theology, spamming their guestbooks is not the way to do it. That’s the best way to turn them off. Just in case you can’t take a hint.
I had to comment again to point out how grossly you misquoted Noel Daniels. You pieced two quotes together that were taken out of context. Noel was actually talking about God’s grace that he gives to us when we trust in Him but have trouble believing fully, and how He will “help our unbelief” as the man entreated of Jesus.
To take two quotes out of context and then surround it with text that completely contradicts everything he was saying and labels Noel as a heretic, is the worst possible insult you could give him.
I do not know Noel Daniels at all, so you can’t accuse me of being partisan. But I will say this.
When I first read your writings, I assumed that you were a sincere Christian, but misguided in your ways of bringing your message to people. Now I know differently. You are one who sows discord among brethren. This is an ABOMINATION TO THE LORD(Proverbs 6:16-19). God cannot possibly bless you for spreading such falsehood and deceit. I challenge you to take a look at the damage you are doing and STOP.
Hmm… Let’s see what happens when we take Andrew Bains words and twist them around out of context:
Ah, here’s a good one. Here’s a part of a sentece you wrote:
“God could not, or would not, irresistibly lead his people to believe and confess the true Gospel”
Here’s another one:
“God will save a sinner based on foreknowledge of what the sinner will do”
My goodess Andrew, you must not be saved…
I seriously hope that next time you try to twist someone’s words out of context, you will think about how your own words can be twisted out of context as well.
good point
Are you typing these from the confines of a mental institution? I sure hope so…
“In fact, if you think we at outsidethecamp.org are “wrong” to say that TULIP is the “ONLY, UNIQUE truth of the bible” (your own words) you SHOULD join the ring. Everyone who is part of the blogring (except for me, the moderator) REPUDIATE Outsidethecamp.org:”
You didn’t ge it. I never told that outsidethecamp is “wrong”. You mention my “wrong” word inappropriately. Please read again.
And i don’t wanna join your blogring because i don’t know why are you moderate of outsidethecamp and we speak peace to arminians at the same time.
Is this kind of game for you??
man, you are freak!!
You’re right mariokim; this is simply a game of rhetoric for andrew. I have the feeling that he will be doing something with all the people that he manipulates into joining the “we speak peace to arminians” blogring. He’s just creating a database of people that he can look to and condemn. He has consitently shown that he has no respect for individuals, that he has no respect for what people say (he constantly takes stuff out of context), that he has no respect for the love and grace of our Lord, that he has no respect for the Word of God (since he takes it out of context as well). He is divisive and hateful, and has repeatedly shown that he does not have any concern for fellow brothers and sisters; nor does he have any concern for those that he deems to be unregenerate. Above all else it is important to Andrew, maybe because of pride, to constantly battle with people, and to believe that he has won those battles. He does not seem to understand that the Calvinists of the Xanga community are growing increasingly weary of him, and are fed up with his divisive and hateful words and propoganda. I have said some stuff about him and Chris Ducan, afterwords I wrote a post in which I recognized and confessed that my responses to these two men were hasty and out of anger rather than anything else. While I didn’t apologize for what I said, I recognized that I should have approached it in a more loving and respectful way. Yet afterwards, Andrew still went to another person’s site, grabbed a comment of mine in which I was trying to encourage a sister in Christ, and misconstrued it to condemn me for not believing his “gospel”. I in turn wrote a respectful response asking him to cease his actions since they were in no way advancing the cause of Christ. In response to this, Chris Duncan proceeded to condemn me and call my a hypocrite.
I am done being polite with them. They are not going to be respectful and polite, so I’m going to call them what they are. They are judgemental heretics who take God’s holy word out of context. They surf around the xanga community looking for Christians that they can pick theological fights with. They are simply creeps. I am tired of them, as are the rest of the Calvinists on xanga. Rather than being driven by a zeal for the Lord, they are driven by pride. They know they are right, and they want to make sure that everybody else is aware that they are right as well. They will not allow somebody else to get the last word in. I can pretty much guarentee you that they will in some way respond to this comment, (that is unless they don’t do it out of spite because of this sentance). Maybe I’m blind, but I in no way see any Christ likeness in Andrew and Chris.
We are all to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling. I will not comment on what I think about the salvation of these two (I only know their fruits, or lack thereof, of their xanga campaign; these speak for themselves), and they have absolutely no right to make the comments that they have about my, and so many others’, salvation. I’m reminded of the hymn “They’ll Know we are Christians by Our Love”.
We can not judge the salvation of others, most especially those who profess Christ as savior. Nor can we condition salvation upon the knowledge of the doctrines of grace.
If Andrew and Chris were concerned about us and our “lostness” then they would have communicated with all of us differently. But they are not concerned at all. They are theological bullies looking for people to beat up.
Andrew and Chris, you can call me what you want; but I challange you to first look at the planks in your own eyes before you look at the plank (I’m sure I have more than a speck of sawdust), in my eye.
Soli Deo Gloria!
No thank you to your invitation to join. I have one verse for you:
“Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.” Ephesians 4:2-3
I suggest you attempt to ‘keep the unity of the Spirit’ rather than try to destroy it.