November 16, 2005

  • Do you hate the Apostle John?


    Andrew C. Bain Sydney, Australia

    15th November 2005


    A most hated and despised doctrine is that SAVING FAITH IS A BARE BELIEF OF THE BARE TRUTH. Nothing more, nothing less.

    1 John 5:9 If we receive the
    witness of men, the witness of God is greater; because this is the
    witness of God which He has witnessed about His Son:

    ~~Notice that it is the WITNESS or testimony ABOUT the Son that matters.
    John doesn’t mention anything about “having a personal relationship”
    with the Son. Neither does he say believers have “committed themselves”
    to the Son. He does not point to these as the GROUNDS or EVIDENCE for them knowing they are saved.

    This is a most important topic. How do believers know they are justified by Christ’s work? After all, He didn’t
    die for everyone, so how do they know their sins were atoned for?

    John’s point
    is that believers have RECEIVED the RECORD (SET
    OF FACTS) about Jesus Christ. And if someone believes the facts then this
    is sufficient EVIDENCE to themselves that they are saved. On the other
    hand, if someone does not believe the gospel, they are lost.

    10 ¶ The one believing in the Son of God has the witness in himself. The one not believing God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the witness which God has witnessed concerning His Son.

    ~~Believers commit all sorts of sins, but they do not call God a liar.
    To doubt the record of Christ shows that a person is an unbeliever.
    After all, if they were saved, they would have “the witness” in
    themselves.

    11 And this is the witness: that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in His Son.

    ~~Obviously someone who doubts their salvation does not know they have
    everlasting life. They do not believe the witness. What is the witness?
    God will save all believers by the work of the Son.

    12 The one having the Son has life. The one not having the Son of God does not have life.

    ~~By “having the Son” John means “abiding in the doctrine of Christ”
    (see his second epistle verse 9). All believers INTELLECTUALLY and
    JUDICIALLY
    have the Son. They have “the mind of Christ.” Furthermore, they have
    His imputed righteousness in their accounts. What I mean by “imputed
    righteousness”, is this — Christ obeyed the Law in their place, so
    they have a PERFECT
    RIGHTEOUSNESS in their “bank account” (so to speak).

    20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and He has given to us an understanding that we may know the true One, and we are in the true One, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and the life everlasting.

    ~~There are some doctrines that EVERY believer knows (even someone who has just been converted.)

    Here is the Apostle’s list:

    1) Believers know that Christ has come and FINISHED THE WORK FOR
    SALVATION FOR ALL HIS PEOPLE — that is, they know that 2000 years ago “God [was] manifest in the flesh”,
    “made of a woman” “made under the Law” “to redeem those under the Law”
    “made sin” “who knew no sin” “made a curse” “to save His people from
    their sins”.

    2) Believers know that saving faith is understanding the gospel. Anyone who hates doctrine is not saved. “HE HAS GIVEN US AN UNDERSTANDING“.
    Anyone who thinks saving faith is MORE than understanding and knowledge
    does not stand in the faith of the Apostles. They never treated faith
    as anything more than “evidence”, the “substance”, “belief”,
    “understanding”, “knowledge” of things not seen (the things of God).

    3) Believers have full assurance of salvation. “WE ARE IN THE TRUE
    ONE”. To doubt the Apostle’s words would be to call God a liar. Anyone
    who doubts they are justified are not justified. The Apostle John knew
    he was saved, and 1 Peter 1 says that ALL believers have EQUALLY
    PRECIOUS faith as the Apostle. Thus, if your assurance is not equal to
    the Apostles (i.e. without doubt) then you are an unbeliever. “He that
    doubts … is damned,” and “he that wavers … [will not] receive
    anything from the Lord.”

    4) What is “life everlasting”?
    Most people that come in the name of Christianity today do not agree
    with the Apostle John’s definition. “And we know that the Son of God has come, and He has given to us an understanding that we may know the true One, and we are in the true One, in His Son Jesus Christ.” By implication, John is saying here that life
    everlasting is NOT about good works, NOT about committing yourself to
    God, NOT about “asking Jesus into your heart” etc etc.

    John’s three points are

    a) The Messiah has come and fulfilled all righteousness

    b) All believers know these facts to be true, and their knowledge is a gift from God

    c) And if we have this bare belief of the bare truth, we are Elect.

    I’d like to write a bit more about point (c). John is saying that the
    ONLY evidence a person can have that they are saved is the
    UNDERSTANDING and KNOWLEDGE of the gospel. In other words, believers do
    not “find out” they are saved by their works, love, commitments,
    prayers etc. Instead, it is a BARE BELIEF OF THE BARE TRUTH that proves
    to the believer they are justified by Christ’s righteousness. All love
    and good works are FRUITS of their assurance. They “love him, because
    He first loved” them. The grounds for their love towards God is knowing
    that He has saved them by Christ’s blood and righteousness.

    And what about Christ’s righteousness? By righteousness, I mean PERFECT
    OBEDIENCE TO THE ETERNAL LAW OF GOD. Christ NEVER sinned. He obeyed
    every jot and tittle of the Law to EARN a righteousness for His people.
    When He was reviled, He did not revile in return. When He was
    threatened, He did not threaten. He humbled Himself and BECAME A
    SERVANT OF THE LAW OF GOD. And by doing so, He perfectly loved God and
    His neighbor.

    This means that in order to an Elect sinner to get to heaven, they need
    to do absolutely NOTHING. “IT IS FINISHED”. The work is done. This is
    why the Word says that believers REST from their works, and are no
    longer under the Law as a curse. Of course, believers are COMMANDED to
    obey ALL God’s statutes (10 Commandments, NT precepts etc.). However,
    their obedience is OUT OF THANKS for what Christ has ALREADY finished.
    They obey out of love for God, and NOT to get God’s love. He loved them
    with an everlasting love, and only fellowships with them because of
    Christ’s PERFECT work that he performed in their place. He was made a
    sacrifice for their sins, and the Father’s wrath was poured out on Him
    in their place. This is why there is “no condemnation in Christ” for
    believers.

    Now, here are some passages from the Psalms that describe Jesus
    Christ’s absolute perfection. Indeed, we are to “Watch the perfect and
    behold the upright one; for the end of that man is peace.” (Psalm 37:37).

    Christ said in the Psalms — “It is God who girds me with strength and gives my way to be perfect “

    “I will behave myself
    wisely in a perfect way”

    “I will set no wicked thing before my eyes; I have hated the work of those who turn aside.”

    “I will not know evil.”

    “Jehovah will perfect His work in me”

    ~~Christ’s work was perfect! He knew no evil, He never lusted, but He
    hated all evil. He walked in all the statutes of God’s Law FOR THE
    ELECT, that they might be perfect, too, with His righteousness in their
    accounts.

    Of course, it does not end here. Christ also suffered the wrath,
    indignation, curse, etc. of God the Father on a cross in place of elect sinners. Here are some
    Psalms describing the anguish and suffering He went through to purge
    His people’s sins.

    ” I suffer Your terrors.”

    “Your fierce wrath goes over me; Your terrors have cut me off. They
    surrounded me like waters all the day; they have come together around
    me.”

    “My heart throbs; my power forsakes me! … I became mute and still; from good I was silent, and my pain was stirred. … “

    ~~How clear is the PERFECT HUMANITY of Christ in these passages. He was
    TRULY HUMAN in that He COULD SUFFER and DID suffer for the sins of all God’s chosen people (the sheep). And He suffered for my
    sins and the sins of ALL the Elect. “For He made the One who knew no sin to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.”

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Comments (3)

  • Hi Andrew,

    Would like to ask you what you actually mean by the term “bare” as you use it here in conjunction with belief and truth.  Surely you are aware that the faith to believe the Gospel is a gift from God to the elect only at the time of conversion and by logical inference is something the unbeliever does not receive/have, which implies that there is a difference in the faith between the two categories, IMU.  I also don’t see a reason in using the term “bare” in conjunction with truth.  Truth means only one thing for the believer. What other kind of ‘truth’ could there be, other than the propositions of the Bible and the propositions deduced by necessary inference from them?  Are you implying that there is such a thing as not bare/dressed truth?  I’m trying to follow you here and have obvious difficulties doing so.  Would appreciate your clarifications.  Thanks!

    Soli Deo Gloria!

    Reinhard

  • Hi. I noticed you subscribed to me. Thanks…props and things. You seem very interesting, lots of writing, which I’ll always appreciate. Take care,
    Sam

    PS. You seem like the type of person who would really appreciate the teachings by Michael Pearl. (go to nogreaterjoy.org) You can listen to an awesome teaching on the front pg, and their CD’s Sabbath Rest, Generation Sins?, Romans, and Sin No More really changed my life. You seem philosophically-minded so…I know you’ll find them interesting.

  • Andrew,

    Interesting page.  I enjoyed the article. I have a few thoughts though:

    “You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe-and tremble.” (James 2:19)

    Keeping James 2:19 in mind, is a mere assent to “Bare Truth” really all the Bible calls for?  I’m a sinful person, as I have yet to become fuly sanctified, and the idea of a belief in mere facts is incredibly tempting, but I just can’t bring myself to believe it.  The Devil and his cohorts are good theologians with a solid belif in all the facts (well beyond the bare details) yet they are not saved because they have not seen any real goodness or value in the Gospel. (Grabted they are also without a redeemer but we are following the flow of the text here.)  Many of our church members are the same way.  They attend, claim to believe, and yet live the complete opposite through most of the week. (Divorce, adultery, fraud, deciet)  They are in essence doing no more than the demons.  Their view and values have yet to be changed.  (Bare Truth at least qualifies us to be a demon) 

    Just to make sure I’m barking up the right tree, do you accept the canonicty of James?

    If not I also wonder what your view of sanctification is.  Do you elieve that we are being conformed to the image and likeness of Christ?  If we are, why would not find some assurance in seeing Him in ourselves through our actions?  Granted that is nothing that we are doing in and of ourselves.  However, the absence of any Spirit made change in the believer should indeed be the grounds for doubt, even if the bare facts are acknowledged. (Often some of these acknowledged facts are not valued or even fully understood by the unregenerate church attender.)We run into a bit of paradox here don’t we?  How can I understand and ascent to something that is spiritually discerned, and yet the demons do that much and they are not exactly commended for it. Works do not save, but they should be present in the sanctified and new creation that is the Christian.

    Is this still in alignement with what your saying?  I might have misunderstod you.

    Peace and Grace,

    C.H.B.  

     

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