June 12, 2005
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PHILLIP R. JOHNSON
On your website, you accuse Marc Carpenter of fanaticism, as well as being “harsh”, and “ridiculous”.
Perhaps you find the following logic harsh:
(1) Arminianism is a false gospel.
(2) All who believe a false gospel are unregenerate.
(3) Therefore all Arminians are unregenerate.
Can’t handle that truth Phil? Well, Arminians assert that their “christ” died for everyone, including those who end up in hell. They believe that Christ is not the difference between salvation and damnation — since they think many for whom he died end up in hell — but man determines his eternity. They hate John 6, 10 and 17 (and the rest of the Bible) which unequivocally teach that Christ laid done His life only for the elect. So, Arminians are deceieved, but what about the truth? Well, for anyone interested, I’d like to briefly outline what the gospel is. This will not be internet “Calvinism”; this is the gospel which all Christians assent to.
The gospel may be best answered with a couple of questions. Firstly, what do we mean when we say Christ “died for” someone? If by “died for,” we mean that Christ suffered the penalty due for their sins (including the sin imputed to them from Adam), then would we not conclude that this person is forgiven, and the Father was satisfied with Christ’s vicarious suffering for that person? After all, if Christ was made a curse and made sin on the cross for someone, that work must be 100% sufficient to save that person from hell. Otherwise, you are forced to say that a sinner must add to the work of Christ to be saved, if Christ’s death alone does not save. But the Bible says “it is finished”, the work is complete. God says that the death of Christ justifies and saves from wrath (Romans 3:24; see also 5:9) reconciles to God (Romans 5:10; see also 2 Corinthians 5:18-19; Colossians 1:21) and justifies from all things (Acts 13:39). That’s the atonement-side of the gospel in brief. For the righteousness-side, read Romans 3,5,10 and Galatians. Christ is the “end of the Law for righteousness”, and by the “obedience of One many will be made righteous”. This righteousness (Christ’s obedience to the Law) is imputed (charged to the account) of an elect sinner when the Holy Spirit causes them to assent to these propositions of the gospel. At this point in time, God declares this person righteous (justified) by Christ’s righteousness (now in their account). Indeed, they are justified from all things, and fully persuaded (no doubt whatsoever, because God has told them in the Bible) that they are elect. All those ordained to eternal life believed; so if you believe, you are elect. And this is not internet “Calvinism”, this is the gospel. Repent and believe it Phil!
My second point, or rather, rhetorical question, is — are those who end up in hell “justified”, “saved”, and “reconciled”? No. So Arminians who believe that some blood-bought people are in hell, do not understand the atonement (the heart of the gospel). Arminians do not believe in the Just God and Savior of the Bible. They are rank Atheists.
“The one believing in the Son of God has the witness in himself.
The one not believing God has
made Him a LIAR,
because he has not believed in the witness which God has
witnessed concerning His Son.” (1 John 5:10 LITV)
Andrew C. Bain
Sydney, Australia
http://www.Godnoliar.com
Comments (4)
Hey buddy.
Your page is a mess. it is hard to read and your fonts are way too big. you should clean it up so that people will read it and not just leave.
I was noticing that at your site just about every stalwart of the faith is in your lies and liars section. I think Phil Johnson’s remark sounds reasonable mr. Bain.
It seems as though you have zeal for the truth but you go to far in an uncareful way this is extreem. I hope you mature in the faith some and put your passion to use to build up the kingdom of God rather then pull it down. God is true and every man a liar. but you my friend seem to major on the minors and minor in the majors.
Key Words for your site and your approach of communication = Unbalanced, Unproven, and sadly Unloving. These are keys areas in which you should channel your passion and that will evidence the fruit of the Spirit.
Remember the Proverbs teach us that only fools reject correction, please don’t be a fool.
Also We are taught in scripture that to lead we must serve – I suggest you work on serving the body of christ. I to beleive the arminian gospel to be false. But many children of God sadly warm the pews of these mis guided churches.
Hello there! I see you are in the “Christians in College” blogring and I wanted to invite you to subscribe to my site and join us in our daily devotions. I think spending time every day in God’s Word is very important to our walk with Christ and my goal is to provide a convenient way for everyone to do this. Check it out and see what you think. Have a blessed day and God Bless!
In His Name,
Rebekah
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Thank you. I am praying for you.
Ouch… Shades of John Gill.. Without the grace..